[tenbrvc]

Hi! I'm unclear on a couple of things.

1. When 40 people register for an individual and when the tourney starts, 5 people are either not online or playing in another tourney, would I have 9 playing tables with one sitout, or 10 tables with 5 sitouts?

2. I read somewhere that now if you are playing in a pairs tournament, if your partner should lose his/her connection, you can actually find a sub yourself without requesting the director's help? Is this true, and if so, how does this work?

Thanks!

[uday]

1.

When the tourney starts, the 5 missing people are discarded , leaving 35 people.

1 sitout is added, to bring the total up to 9 full tables. (Up to 3 sitouts might be added)

So you'd have 9 tables, 1 sitout.


2.
True, if you are running 3.6.0 (the latest production version of BBO).
If your Partner is missing, you can click Director! and use one of the two Substitute related options.

The first one asks the system to find you a sub. If none are available, a request for subs is made to the lobby, and you will have to try again.

The second one shows you a list of subs and allows you to select a sub from this list.

These functions only work if partner is offline.

[etherwiz]

Simple Question.

Do these work if partner has a Red Dot and is NonResponsive. Or only for a name totaly in red. Sometimes I go to a table and someone has a Red Dot but was not RED in the list of tables.

Thanks,
_*_Dave

[inquiry]

Red dot just means poor connection, totally red means disconnected. So they work when your partner is off line (totally red) as opposed to just red dotted. I suggest the second your partner goes red you do not replace him/her as they may come right back...now if they have had a horrible connection for a few rounds, disregard this advice and take the opporutinity to help everyone out and replace them... people with bad connections should volunteer to the TD that their connection is bad and ask the TD to help substitute for them (at least IMHO).

Ben

[McBruce]

Maybe something other than a red dot might be better. I'm just old enough to remember the days when the ACBL required players to put a red dot on the defense section of the convention card if they played anything unusual. Clubs and tournaments actually kept sheets of the things as basic bridge supplies. When I hear red dot that is what I think.

Sort of like Windows NT, which Bill Gates intended to stand for Windows New Technology, but which for the past decade I have unconsciously read as Windows Notrump.

[uday]

A player cannot currently replace a "red dotted" partner. Such a partner will be timed out in a few minutes.

[Gweny]

it is this few minutes things who create problems...
td must manually type in names to replace player wwho is "red dot" and also type in name of replacement if specific person is desire...

is it possible to decrease red dot time?

often if i do boot i do not realize this... it is very frustrating.

[spwdo]

hi,



its a great thing this possibilty to seek your own sub when playing but i see this alot , lots use kibitzers for this , very unfair , simple word cheating i call it, so as long as this is possible i dont encourage anymore this "seek your own sub feature" maybe add something to the subbing program if a players is kibitzing on that tourney, subbing becomes inactive, eventually if this isnt stopped i`m forced to turn kibitzing off and this woud be a real shame, also yes on what gweny said, decrease this time, maybe make possible to boot players automatically when 2 munites poor connection, i noticed that only thing u can do when this happens is signing oof and in again, staying and waiting makes things only lose more time, signing in to bbo when possible takes me 2 seconds so slow pc and other connection shoud take max one minute if not in time we see in overview complete red for that long and we can sub and get things moving again


greetings marc

[Azzkikr]

Hi all. I dont think you should worry about those with bad connections if you are playing 2 or more boards. especillay if you are running 3 or more. The fact is people have the option to claim. I dont think this is utilised enough and find that alot of players wont accept claims because that players dont understand. this is the reason that time is wasted and that rounds take so long. If a hand is part the way through then just sit back and wait to see if there partner turns up. reason for this: if the player doesnt know whats been played then how can they be expected to get this hand right? they might as well take an average on the board if time runs out.

I personally play quite fast, in a 2 board round its not uncommon for me to have about 6 mins on the board when finished. I find it rather annoying that when i come back after being dissoconnected to find my seat gone. It is the players in defense that force the issue of the sub i think that more weight should be given if their partners ask for a sub.

[tenbrvc]

I just thought of another question about players finding their own subs in the middle of a tournament.

If the tournament was created to restrict to a private list (or say friends only), would

(1) non-friends be able to register as a sub once the tournament has started, and

(2) would a player be able to "invite" a non-friend into the tournament?

Thanks!

[uday]

1) i think so,
2) I think so

I'm not 100% sure but close to it.

Maybe we should have a TD option to disable te abilty for players to find their own subs. Maybe we should check the subs for tourney suitability (maybe). Similarly for invitees. I'm not completely convinced we should.

[Frosty]

I vote for screening the subs using the same criteria the TD has assigned to the tourney. It does no good to block people from your tournaments if they just come right in the back door (as subs) - which they ARE able to do either with the TD's assignment or the players choice.

Remember that my Co-TD's "enemies" list is going to be different from mine. Someone I have blocked from entering my game can easily be subbed in by my Co-Director with no knowledge that this player was blocked originally.

Frosty/Jan

[mink]

In case enemies are excluded it is obviously a good idea to reject enemies who try to sub for the tourney. But if the tourney is restricted to members of a small club or to a friends list, it would not be a good idea to prevent non-members from subbing because that might result in having no subs at all.

Karl

[Azzkikr]

i think that if you want to add the same criteria to the subs as you do the players then is should only be done on the HOSTS list as to who is allowed and who isnt. i dont think that the Co-Directors list should have any bearing. the reason is is that the co directors can be anyone they dont need to be a TD can be a friend. so i think that their list should not be use.

[spwdo]

hi,



yes please stop enemies form entering tournaments as subs, have one particully bothering me in this way, he comes in says "hi&lol" to me because he knows im subbing him out again. he does it as a game and i get tired of this, all tds knows this player and they discuss it with me when his name is displayed for the first time on the sublist, then we know we have another tourney that none td is feeling comfortably with cause he keeps doing it time and time again to annoie us. secondly give us please tool to avoid players finding their own subs so we can check intentionel disconnects and prevent kibitzers coming in. up to each host wheter or not to do that, another thing : please make diffrent for allowing undo& tournament chat, in some tourneys i would like to enable undo but tournament chat i nevr want to have on, players discussing last hand when they done is not a good thing



thx marc

[uday]

You are also free to redirect obnoxious specs like this hi-lol guy to me.