[Cave_Draco]

Having seen comments about undos, on other strings, it seems worth having a discussion about them,  .

I am quite happy to undo a misbid but a misplay?

I'm sure most of us have played with greasy cards & pulled the wrong card...  It happens, but how many of us snatch it back?

It isn't worth getting upset about,  .

Online bridge is immune to the Alcatraz Coup but it is also free from penalty cards, etc.

We all make mistakes, pulling the wrong card is one of them.

[inquiry]

When playing with the card view (where you see the cards as they look at the table), it is easy to misclick on a card one to the right or one to the left of the card you meant to click. I find that playing in the mode where you see the suits in rows with like this

S 954
H 4
D QJT7532
C A9

It is very much easier to avoid misclick

Now if some leads teh D2 early in the hand and sask for an undo and leads a spade, that was probably not a misclick, but rather a change in heart. I think undo's should only be used for real misclicks.. .bidding or play

[the hog]

I always give undos for whatever reasons. This is not the Bermuda Bowl here, and I'd rather play decent bridge.

[Gerardo]

   Me too, I'll allow all of them, but if game went on, and info which wouldn't be available by intended bid/play is out there, I prefer to reject it, and offer a redeal instead.
   About cardplaying, usually new people who played online elsewhere double-click to play cards, with the side effect an unwanted card is played  :-/, so an undo may be required in such situations  

[Cave_Draco]

If I misclick in bidding asking for an undo is OK; I am unlikely to give my P the ethical dilemma of 1S...undo...pass.
ID...undo...1H is a reasonable misclick.

If I misclick in play? I apologise to P later but accept a blunder; all cards played provide information: in a game of incomplete information, that can be crucial.

[oldfogey]

Undo should not be allowed if the next player has played (revealing a card), or bid (revealing a suit).

oldfogey

[csdenmark]

Undo's always to be accepted I think. I accept automatically and leave table as quick as possible if anybody think differently. I am sorry I a few days ago had to cancel a partnership of that reason but so it is if partner want to judge of conditions others have and you do not know anything of. - You simply have to assume others to have the same, or may be better, intensions than yourself.  

This is not a test of individuals technical skills

Rejecting UNDO is unacceptable. Acc. to the rules for BBO you can ask for UNDO of misclick's. If you have a misjudgement you are not allowed to ask for UNDO, you simply have to accept such.

If somebody ask for UNDO of misjudgement's it is cheating - and game is over of course.

Claus - csdenmark  >

[Mike]

I almost always permit undo unconditionally.

I do not regard it as favour or a refusal of it as a sin.

BBO is representing freedom in every respect thank god, and thank to Fred!

What a behaviour to running away if sombody exercises given rights? Forcing not to use what is a free choice?

Additionally, by my overwhelming experience most of the undo requests are not simple technical miscliks at all. Just be honest once in a while. Most of them are slip of the mind rather then slip of the fingers.

Notwithstanding, permitting undo is a curtesy, that unfortunately not everybody all the time applies.

Frequently, the receiving side previous behaviour triggers an eventual refusal. How many gloating have we seen. How many other stings and bites do we receive. No wonder if natural human reaction results a less than christian behaviour to show the other side after a flap.

[dogsbreath]

It is the responsibility of the person ASKING for the undo to consider wether or not a genuine misclick has occurred - rather than a hasty play or bid.  On that basis I always accept undo's.    Another factor to consider is that some of us suffer from bad comms and mouse response can be poor - resulting in occassional accidents.  Let's keep it loose out there )