[Cascade]

Does anyone have a good method for handling the situation where you have opened in a suit partner has responded in a new suit (usually a major) and you have 16-18 hcp, a six-card suit of your own and three-card support for partner.

e.g.

♠ A J x
♥ x
♦ A K J x x x
♣ K J x

1♦ 1♠
?

Thx Wayne

[Free]

Yes, 3♦ means exactly that: length in opening suit, 3 card support. Bidding 3NT shows short in the major partner bid. But this is not a standard treatment...

[inquiry]

Misho and I are also using this jump rebid in the minor to show the same kind of hand as Free... just like the one you diagramed. The downside is that when you don't have three card support but a great suit in a great hand you have to have another bid available. This means a total rewrite of your rebid structure. It is fun to do, but takes a lot of work.

Here is the gist of what we are doing. A simple new suit by opener is one round force so jumps in new suit are no longer necessary to force. A jump to 2NT after 1m-1M of 1H-1S shows a great fit for responder's major (Jacoby 2NT by opener, hehehe), and we use the ETM victory Jacoby PLUS responding scheme by responder on this auction. This makes the 1m-1M-3M jump a tad lighter than normal, and makes 1m-1M-2M much more limited in value than in standard...also, we very frequently raise to 2M on this auction with 3 card support.

Two final pieces of the modified puzzle is that a 1NT rebid by opener is weak (we open 1NT with 14-16) but can be slightly off shape because, we use opener new minor forcing (onmf) as artificial force by opener with descriptive natural rebids by opener over this onmf.

Ben

[Cascade]

After

1♣/♦ 1♥ ...

if you play 1♠ as forcing then 2♠ is free for something else.

I have thought of using this as a club rebid.

When responder's suit is spades then you have to go beyond 3minor to find a 'free' bid ...

1♣ 1♠
3♦

1♦ 1♠
3♥

And there is nothing free when both majors have been bid ...

1♥ 1♠
?

Any more ideas anyone?

Wayne

[flytoox]

Cascade, on Feb 13 2004, 04:10 AM, said:

Does anyone have a good method for handling the situation where you have opened in a suit partner has responded in a new suit (usually a major) and you have 16-18 hcp, a six-card suit of your own and three-card support for partner.

e.g.

♠ A J x
♥ x
♦ A K J x x x
♣ K J x

1♦ 1♠
?

Thx Wayne

I think some play 1m-1M-2N show this kind hand. I think here judgement may play a role. If your six card is very solid, then jump rebid it. If the suit is broke, then raise pd's major. In precision, I think you wont have this kind question very often.

fly

[mikestar]

flytoox, on Feb 15 2004, 02:42 PM, said:

I think some play 1m-1M-2N show this kind hand. I think here judgement may play a role. If your six card is very solid, then jump rebid it. If the suit is broke, then raise pd's major. In precision, I think you wont have this kind question very often.

fly

The same problem arises in Precision with this slightly weaker hand:

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This hand is well worth 3♦ but has 3-card spade support.

Precision players have a unique solution available. Assume 12-15 1NT that can be opened with a five card major (or at least with 3 ♠ and 5 ♥). Balanced 11's are passed. Now opener has no need for a natural 1NT rebid and we can use 1NT as the equivalent of a support double: 3 card support for partner's major, unlimited in strength. We can use checkback mechanisms to get the shape and range. Some difficult non-support hands can be included as well. 1♦-1♠-1NT could also be 4♥ & 5 or 6♦ or with insufficent values to reverse or 1-4-4-4 with any strength.

[Trpltrbl]

I like to play that a jump in my opening suit shows either, my own solid suit with good hand, or decent own suit with 3 card support for pd's major.

Mike