[DrTodd13]

What do people play the 2N and 3N response to rev drury, e.g., 1♠-2♣-2N/3N?
One site I found said that 2N was 15-17 bal and 3N was 18+ bal. Under the principle of fast arrival, shouldn't these be reversed? If they are reversed then another suggestion was to use J2NT responses to show singletons or secondary 5 card suits by responder. This sounds like a good idea.

[kfgauss]

I like:

3N = choice of games

2N = slammish, balanced

so essentially reversed from the suggestion you found, yes.

I hadn't thought about rebids over 2N, but your suggestion sounds reasonable (or even better something with a bit of artificiality to allow us to show various things at lower levels perhaps, if you want the memory strain).

Most of my current partners like to use the 3-level bids (ie 2M+1 through 3M-1) as over 1M-2M (we use 2-way game tries) and so 2N is subsumed in this (but 3N is still cog). I prefer a scheme where all game tries start with 2D (and then responder can bid 2M or make his own 2-way game tries, and then over 1M-2C;2D-2M, again we have 2-way game tries) and the 3-level is slammish and natural myself.

Andy

[Double !]

FWIW: I don't believe that any bid other that 2D or 2M should be the initial responses to 2C. The reason is that responder has a variety of rebids after 2D (rev. drury, I assume) to show different types of hands with 3-card trump support (or 4-card support if you play M Lawrence's response structure.) I guess it's a matter of which hand should be easier to describe (usually the weaker of the two) and which hand should be doin' the askin' (often the stronger of the two). My suggestion is to save the NT bids at least until the 2C bidder has had a chance to further describe the nature of the 2C response. The final contract might not be a matter of points or choice of games, but which points and where. One can always bid NT next.

Why rush?

DHL

[DrTodd13]

So now on to the real hand that was held by my partner.

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1♠ in 3rd seat, 2♣ rev drury from pd. What is your bid?

2♦?
2N?
4N?
something else?

[pbleighton]

"1♠ in 3rd seat, 2♣ rev drury from pd. What is your bid?

2D?
2N?
4N?
something else?"

At the risk of offending the god of space conservation, I bid 3D.

Peter

[luke warm]

i'd bid 2♦... i don't believe in offending gods

[Winstonm]

I use 2N as "serious", showing slam interest opposite a limit raise.

[Double !]

Again, to be consistent with my previous post, I would respond 2♦ and then see what responder/ advancer's rebid is. Depending on the 2♣ bidder's rebid, I now have so many further bids available to seek whatever additional information I might need including additional information regarding the 2C bidder's distribution.

Have a good one:

DHL

[pclayton]

luke warm, on Jul 6 2006, 02:55 PM, said:

i'd bid 2♦... i don't believe in offending gods

Yeah - I'd start with 2♦ too; lets see if pard has something to say - like # of trump and shortness.

[matmat]

i happily rebid 2d and aim for slam when partner makes a natural 3d call over that.

[SoTired]

Fast arrival does not apply to NT bids. (I personally think that "Fast Arrival" has been the excuse for much misbidding).

Playing 2/1
1S 2m 2N = 12-14 or 18-19 (with the upper range, opener will bid beyond 3N)
1S 2m 3N = 15-17
Also:
1S 2m 2S 2N = 12-14 or 18-19
1S 2m 2S 3N = 15-17