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The future of space flight?

#21 User is offline   cherdano 

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Posted 2006-April-24, 11:48

mike777, on Apr 22 2006, 07:29 PM, said:

I want to see my tax dollars go towards this.

1) I think the combination of some worthwhile basic research coming out of it and inspiring dreams is worth the money spent.
2) There is some basic science that says the more dispersed a species is the greater chance for survival.
3) Corporate and oversees monies are flowing into space research.

1) This just isn't true IMHO. Spin-off from space flight development is vastly overstated, it's very marginal and in no relation to the costs. Experiments done in manned space flights are way too expensive and add very little benefit compared to experiments done via unmanned space flight or zero-gravity simulators. If you want scientists understand what mars is like, there is no benefit of sending men close to it compared to sending a couple of probes.
2) Great. We spend a billion so that if the earth crashes, 4 people in a space station can survive until they run out of food.
3) Huh? Anyway, an edge for the US then if it spends its money on unmanned space flight and other research instead.

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Posted 2006-April-24, 11:58

1) Yes the space shuttle flights were pretty worthless in terms of research spinoffs, I do think going for Mars will spinoff more stuff.
2) Well maybe living on Mars or farther out(other systems) may help. :).
3) Of course keep monies going into unmanned and with competition from corp and oversees, will push us all to improve faster and cheaper.

Ya, I am one of those who think you scientist/inventor boys and girls are going to make the next 45 years seem like majic compared to the last 45 years.
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Posted 2006-April-24, 12:46

Dream on Mike.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-April-24, 16:22

mike does have a point, though... some technology of today would seem simply amazing to the people of 50 years ago, and to those of 100 years ago some would probably seem to be magical

they grew a bladder from a cell... transplants with no rejections, anyone? if a bladder, why not a heart; an ear; a liver; hell, why not a spinal column?

medical science and ethics are soon gonna run smack into one another... imo, the money will win (as usual)
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Posted 2006-April-24, 16:30

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mike does have a point, though... some technology of today would seem simply amazing to the people of 50 years ago, and to those of 100 years ago some would probably seem to be magical


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Posted 2006-April-24, 18:22

SARCASM ALERT!

You know what, let's build ourselves a new, perfect planet!

It's perhaps not possible now, but if we put a lot of tax-money into it then soon it will. And in the meantime we'll have lots of interesting scientific inventions. After all, we'll put the smartest people on this project.

SARCASM OFF

There is a big difference between trying to grow a blatter from a cell and trying to build a settlement on Mars. Not every project that you can dream off is worthwhile from a scientific point of view.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-April-25, 04:12

Hannie, on Apr 24 2006, 07:22 PM, said:

Not every project that you can dream off is worthwhile from a scientific point of view.

i agree 100%... i'm just glad i'm not in a position to judge what is or isn't 'worthwhile'... i'm too ignorant of too many sciences to even attempt it
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