[andych]

I am Team2 N. I create the team match.

Team1 vs Team2. Player names Team1 N/S/E/W. Team2 N/S/E/W

Table settings - kibizer silent (set), baro off (default), undo not allow (default).

Original Team1 E replaced by Team1 E at certain point, upon request of Team 1.

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E 1D
W 1S
E 2H
W 2NT
E 3NT
W 5D
N X
E 5H
W 6D
N X
E 6NT
S X

Following happens after the bidding. EW started to request undo/cancel this hand only after 6NT X.
Chat file with player names masked. Except myself. All others unedited.

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Team1 E: local storm, internet broken, ok now, ty
Team1 W: hi Team1 E!h
Team1 W: wlc
Team1 W: just post cc, pls
Team1 W: they playing weak nt  so  capp better
Team1 E: Team1 W, 2/1 multi or std?
Team1 E: Capp, bergen?
Team1 W: 2/1 , o/e,  no multi
Team1 E: ok
Team1 W: yes, capp and bergen, and inverted, and leb
Team1 E: perfect
Team1 W: leads, 3/5 vs suit and 2/4 vs nt, ok?
Team1 E: perfect
Team1 E: ty
Team1 E: undo is not activated...why...this is a very normal thing
Team1 W: ask host
andych: i just took the default .. didnt change anything
Team1 W: pls ask Team1 S
Team1 E: it is second time when conditions are not as per std rules
Team1 E: it is definitely stupid to may loose match bec of an obvious undo
Team1 E->Tournament:    pls redeal this hand
Team2 N: how about re match on a next day
Team1 S->Tournament:    can't redeal
Original Team 1 E: you can decide to ignore this hand's result
Team1 W->Tournament:    can  we ignore board 6?
Team1 E->Tournament:    rehhi, all, undo is not activated, onvious misclick
andych: either we cancel all .. or keep this hand
Team1 W->Tournament:    Team1 E has missclick and undo not there
Team1 E->Tournament:    kindly ask to ignore this hand
andych->Tournament:    not agree to cancel only 1 hand... either we cancel all, or keep all
Team2 N: it is unfair for us too....
Team1 W->Tournament:    why all? missclikc  was only here
Team1 N->Tournament:    do you mind we cancel all and restart?
Team1 E: Team2 S, the conditions u set are not very ok
Team1 W: undo allow  at ladder match
Team1 E->Tournament:    i agree
Team2 E->Tournament:    cancel all pls
Team1 S->Tournament:    u decide catpains, I'm all ok
Team1 W: why restart?  can we just set  9 more?
Team2 N: any rule for chanhing p in the middle
Team1 W->Tournament:    why restart, can we just play  9 more?
andych->Tournament:    with all due respect, it is to avoid dispute ... we accept cancel all or keep all, but not 1 hand
Team1 N->Tournament:    I vote for cancelling all and restarting
Team1 S->Tournament:    captains?
Team1 E->Tournament:    i agree with restart
Team1 W->Tournament:    Team1 E decision  he the captain
Team1 W->Tournament:    Team1 S , pls set the TM ,
Team1 W: kibb can u tell score pls?
Team1 S->Tournament:    who captain the Team2? what do u say?
Original Team 1 E: yes but I'm not telling.. so the decision will be unbiased
andych: dont tell score now to make things complicated
Team1 S->Tournament:    Team 2 captain (non playing) agrees?
andych->Tournament:    as said, we accept cancel all,
Team1 W: Team2 captain(non playing), u  the captain, rt?
Team1 E: i know we were ahead by 20 imp
Team2 E->Tournament:    if reset pls set barometer on
->Team1 E: so shd not allow private chat... make things complicated... and silly to ask for score then
Team 2 captain (non playing) (Lobby): andy you reset the tourney
Team1 E (Lobby): 25-9
Team1 S (Lobby): ur pairings pls
->Team 2 captain (non playing): no .. Team1 S did that
Team2 N (Lobby): what a trouble opp!!!
->Team2 N: do u continue or rescheudle ... crazy them
Team2 kibitzer (Lobby): finish??
->Team2 kibitzer: no match cancelled
Team1 E (Lobby): even 6N dbl...not to much to loose..
Team2 N (Lobby): i prefer re schedule
Team2 kibitzer (Lobby): why??
Team2 N (Lobby): but continue ok
->Team2 N: let continue then
->Team 2 captain (non playing): pls give Team1 S pairing .. same pairing?
Team 2 captain (non playing) (Lobby): Fok with me
->Team1 S: same... andych/Team2 N ... Team2 E/Team2 W
Team 2 captain (non playing) (Lobby): you tell Team1 S
Team1 N: hi all
Team2 N: shall we play faster, very late here
Team1 S->Tournament:    so why r u bugging Team1 W,
Team1 E->Tournament:    rehi all, GL
Team1 S->Tournament:    rehi all, sry for reset
andych->Tournament:    no private chat to players pls
Team1 W->Tournament:    i want  to say only one thing, Team2 set the tm  isnt our foult to have no undo,  score was 25-5  after 5 boards
Team1 W->Tournament:    i dont think we have to cancel all
Team1 E->Tournament:    ty Team1 S, for all players inf, we were leading by 25-9
Team1 W->Tournament:    now, gl all
andych->Tournament:    i see no reason .... to cancel only 1 hand!!!
andych->Tournament:    and someone told me before cancel match he knew the score... ridiculous!
Team1 W->Tournament:    why andy, didnt u played all other 4  boards? u have missclick there or u  just   know that  u behind?
Team1 N->Tournament:    let us start from 0-0
Team1 S->Tournament:    pls be quite
Team1 S->Tournament:    quiet
Team1 W->Tournament:    your friends told u to  cancel,,  they knew your tm  behind
Team1 S: typ
Team1 W->Tournament:    i can  see why cause undo need to cancel 5 boards
andych->Tournament:    no one told me to cancel ... no one told me the score .. Team1 E said he knew the score... mind your word Team1 W
Team2 W->Tournament:    Team1 W, me and my p didn't suggest anything, after all this is just a friendly match
Team1 W->Tournament:    gl all
Team1 S: agree edward, let's just play
andych->Tournament:    if any doubt ... I can send the chat file Team1 W ... pls take back 'your friend told me to cancel' pls???
Team1 E->Tournament:    i told the score only after match was reset,...just for better appreciation of the boards for all players
Team1 S->Tournament:    would u mind not talking about it now?
andych->Tournament:    the match hasnt cacnel... when u chat me your knew the score... as said if any doubt I send the chat file
Team1 N->Tournament:    let us forget history. Let us start from 0-0.
Team1 N: Let us start a friendly game
Team1 N->Tournament:    let us start a friendly game

Rules quote below.

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All players should be aware that they might become host during a game, even if they are not in the beginning. Please make sure your settings/options are as follows before starting a match. If a player is playing with a substitute, it is the player's responsibility to ensure that the substitute has the correct settings, or else be subject to a possible penalty.

Host Options:
Allow Robots: unchecked
Teaching Mode: unchecked
Allow Kibitzers: silent (suggested)

General Options:
Log deals: checked


All other options are at player's choice

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Misclicks (2/10/02)
If a player makes a mistake during bidding (e.g. bids 2H instead of 1H) 

To avoid unauthorized information, a player who has misclicked during the bidding shall simply announce "misclick." 
If a player announces a misclick before the next call is made, then the host is required to reset the bidding. In the repeat of the bidding, all calls prior to the misclick call must be repeated. 
If the announcement is made AFTER the next call has been made, the misclicked call will stand and the board will be played out, unless all four players agree to reset the bidding.

Team1 cancel the match and we restart from 0-0.

[AceOfHeart]

you can report team1E to abuse just for the fact he know the score and is not playing barometer. It is obvious cheating.

East could have just supported partner spades on bid 2 too. Bidding 2H is asking for it.

[andych]

Would like to have your views, so more specific questions below

1. Should Team1 EW ask to scrape that single board?

2. Should Team 2 accept to scrape that single board?

3. Is it a problem that Team 2 offer only to cancel or keep all?

4. Should the above be affected by the state of the match?

5. Team 2 was actually trailing. Is it a ethical problem that one knew the state of the match?

6. Anyone guilty?

Appreciate your views. Preferably with reasons behind.

Thank you very much.

[luis]

Just forget it, it's a team match and the guy was a sub, missclicked, was too proud to ask for an UNDO and when it ended in a disaster he wanted to undo.