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1st seat, you are playing IMPs, none vul (actually this shouldn't matter too much IMO).
You hold: ♠AKJxx ♥J10xxx ♦x ♣Qx
You are playing SAYC with gadgets, and have the option to open 2♥ showing any 5/5 or better hand including hearts, below opening strength (your other preempt options are weak twos in ♦, ♥ and ♠). The weak two are actually assumed to be disciplined and contain 6 cards.
What do you do and why?
This might look trivial or purely a matter of style, but we had a discussion about this so I'm interested in any opinions, however subjective.
--Sigi
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Major Two-Suiter: 1Lvl, 2Lvl or Pass? what is your style/opinion
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Posted 2006-February-23, 19:43
1S, I am a sound opener and don't think this hand is close to below opening strength.
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Posted 2006-February-23, 19:52
Likewise, but I'm not a sound opener.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2006-February-23, 21:22
Addition to the above: In the discussion mentioned it was argued that the 2♥ opener can be seen as a semi-constructive device (for me it's a preempt) and might well be used with that holding and position.
(Possible follow-ups to 2♥ are NF 2♠, 2NT asks strength/2nd suit, else nat forcing).
What do you think of this?
--Sigi
(Possible follow-ups to 2♥ are NF 2♠, 2NT asks strength/2nd suit, else nat forcing).
What do you think of this?
--Sigi
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Posted 2006-February-24, 01:56
Too much to preempt : I open 1♠
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Posted 2006-February-24, 02:13
I don't preempt with 11 points on 5-5 majors and just Q outside long suits. One my friend has this attitude (and where we are playing together our 2nd level are different for 2 points 
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Clear 1♠ for me, but I know people who would bid 2♥.
).Clear 1♠ for me, but I know people who would bid 2♥.
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Posted 2006-February-24, 04:02
Just too much for a preempt. Without the ♣Q go ahead and open both majors weak, and even then Ben will say he will open 1♠ (but not me).
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Posted 2006-February-24, 08:21
easy 1♠ imo
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Posted 2006-February-24, 11:23
Easy pass I don't see 3QT 
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Posted 2006-February-24, 11:45
1♠ for me: a horrible hand and 1♠ is an overbid but 2♥ would be a bigger underbid, and passing (with all respect to our Dr. Roth clone) is silly.
Another point against the 2♥ bid: this hand is only secondarily about ♥: this hand is primarily about ♠.
Another point against the 2♥ bid: this hand is only secondarily about ♥: this hand is primarily about ♠.
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Posted 2006-February-24, 11:55
mikeh, on Feb 24 2006, 08:45 PM, said:
1♠ for me: a horrible hand and 1♠ is an overbid but 2♥ would be a bigger underbid, and passing (with all respect to our Dr. Roth clone) is silly.
Another point against the 2♥ bid: this hand is only secondarily about ♥: this hand is primarily about ♠.
Another point against the 2♥ bid: this hand is only secondarily about ♥: this hand is primarily about ♠.
I think that Mike raises a very good point: Your spades suit is much stronger that your heart suit. Accordingly, I prefer an opening which emphasizes Spades.
In many ways, this opening reminds me of the old Wilkosz 2♦. The Poles scored some great successes with this bid over the years. As I recall, the main of the best results occured when the Poles were able to avoid a 1M opening. Many players using more standard methods couldn't bear to pass the juciy 5-5 hand and got overboard.
From my perspective, this hand is a borderline opening bid. Opening 1♠ is nice and you have an easy rebid in Hearts, however, you don't have that great defense. As I noted, forced to chose between 1♠ and 2♥, I'd open 1♠. However, switch the suits and I'd probably open 2♥ instead.
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