Three passes to you. 2♦ would not be natural.
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4th seat no majors
#2
Posted 2005-November-30, 04:44
I would still open 1♦. Full opening values, and a game is not out of the question.
For all that I know, pard is 4-4 in the majors, so I would not be unduly worried.
For all that I know, pard is 4-4 in the majors, so I would not be unduly worried.
#3
Posted 2005-November-30, 05:07
I open 1♦.
I risk driving opps to a major suit partscore making, but against that, there are 2 alternative scenarios for a decent score:
a. it's our hand, pard has a limit hand, and with this hand I'd gladly accept a game invitation
b. it's a partscore hand, and I would not mind competeing to 3 diamonds, when I hope that if they compete with 3M they'll go down (after all, they did not open 3rd seat)
All in all, I consider the odds of bidding better than putting all the eggs in one basket and passing.
I risk driving opps to a major suit partscore making, but against that, there are 2 alternative scenarios for a decent score:
a. it's our hand, pard has a limit hand, and with this hand I'd gladly accept a game invitation
b. it's a partscore hand, and I would not mind competeing to 3 diamonds, when I hope that if they compete with 3M they'll go down (after all, they did not open 3rd seat)
All in all, I consider the odds of bidding better than putting all the eggs in one basket and passing.
"Bridge is like dance: technique's important but what really matters is not to step on partner's feet !"
#4
Posted 2005-November-30, 05:14
If I can't open 2♦, then I open 3♦. In 4th seat this is constructive, 10-15 or so.
#7
Posted 2005-November-30, 05:36
Blofeld, on Nov 30 2005, 11:31 AM, said:
Count me in for 3♦.
I think 3D is better used for a gambling-type hand, with better intermediates than this and at most one outside control.
In my opinion, a normal, full opening with a minor can be simply opened 1m, even if the minor is KQxxxx.
"Bridge is like dance: technique's important but what really matters is not to step on partner's feet !"
#8
Posted 2005-November-30, 06:06
Hello everyone
I like to upgrade hands, but this one is still a 1D opening bid.
I open 1D and rebid 2D to suggest a long suit. Pretty well describes my hand.
Regards,
Robert
I like to upgrade hands, but this one is still a 1D opening bid.
I open 1D and rebid 2D to suggest a long suit. Pretty well describes my hand.
Regards,
Robert
#11
Posted 2005-November-30, 10:17
1D =14 Pearson points, plus upgrade for honors, plus upgrade for 6-4.
#12
Posted 2005-November-30, 10:27
This is a good example of why some of these 'Rules' that we hear so much about are only guidelines. The Rule of 15 would suggest passing, but I doubt that you will find much support for that point of view here or in real life.
I would prefer to bid a slightly heavy (because of the controls) 2♦, I am not unhappy that our methods prevent that. 1♦ would be a very close second choice, and may well be a better bid anyway so 1♦ it is.
Change my hand to 1=3=5=4 or (worse) 1-3-4-5 and I begin to have doubts, but a decent 6-4 gives me lots of reason to believe this is our hand.
Nothing in life comes with 100% guarantees, and opening could be the route to a minus score, but experience suggests the pecentages favour bidding.
I would prefer to bid a slightly heavy (because of the controls) 2♦, I am not unhappy that our methods prevent that. 1♦ would be a very close second choice, and may well be a better bid anyway so 1♦ it is.
Change my hand to 1=3=5=4 or (worse) 1-3-4-5 and I begin to have doubts, but a decent 6-4 gives me lots of reason to believe this is our hand.
Nothing in life comes with 100% guarantees, and opening could be the route to a minus score, but experience suggests the pecentages favour bidding.
'one of the great markers of the advance of human kindness is the howls you will hear from the Men of God' Johann Hari
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