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Funny law question Using the opponents' lack of use of UI

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Posted 2005-October-12, 16:47

barmar, on Oct 12 2005, 04:55 PM, said:

It's hard to comment on the case without seeing the facts. But it doesn't really matter whether the hesitator actually had what his hesitation suggested, only whether the partner took an action that could be based on the suggestion.

"Hesitation Blackwood" is an extremely thorny issue -- the Bulletin or Bridge World had a whole series of articles on this a couple of years ago (I think the title was "If it hesitates -- shoot it"). If one player signs off after getting a Blackwood response, and his partner then raises to a making slam without a clear bridge reason (e.g. he made a 03 or 14 response, so he's expected to convert to slam if he has 3 or 4), it's not uncommon for it to be reversed if there's the slightest hint of UI.

what has really been annoying to me kibbing the ACBL online games here on BBO is how many of the players Blackwood with a void in their hands. ;)
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Posted 2005-October-13, 02:48

Simple rule: Avoid Blackwood with avoid.
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Posted 2005-October-13, 07:43



You're dealer, and you can assume love all for this one.

1H (1S) P (1NT)
P (2C) P P
?

What would you do here?
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  Posted 2005-October-13, 07:46

Double without thinking.

Then I might think, and I'd still agree with the double.
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Posted 2005-October-13, 08:23

mr1303, on Oct 13 2005, 08:43 AM, said:



You're dealer, and you can assume love all for this one.

1H (1S) P (1NT)
P (2C) P P
?

What would you do here?

X. Partner seems short in hearts and will be leading through the king, so I'm not worried about a pass. Obviously 2 of a red suit is ok too.
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Posted 2005-October-16, 15:57

So no-one considered passing then? Interesting, because I was strongly urged not to appeal by the TD as I would almost certainly lose my deposit on this one.

Partner hesitated for quite a while before passing, I reopened with 2D, which was raised in competition after RHO took the push to 3C, who then doubled 3D which was cold.

Partner's hand was

AJx
Kx
xxxxx
xxx

Director was called and board was adjusted to 2C making however many....
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Posted 2005-October-17, 04:13

No, passing didn't really occur to me. But I thought that double was more flexible than 2.
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Posted 2005-October-19, 06:02

Blofeld, on Oct 17 2005, 06:13 AM, said:

No, passing didn't really occur to me. But I thought that double was more flexible than 2.

Ditto.
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Posted 2005-October-19, 09:38

Yeah, I agree, and it did occur to me at the time. Mind you, partner was someone who didn't bid the obvious 1NT holding:

AJx
Kx
98xxx
xxx

so no doubt he'd probably have left it in.....
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