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#1 User is offline   lycier 

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Posted 2012-December-31, 08:27



问题出在哪?
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Posted 2012-December-31, 09:29

View Postlycier, on 2012-December-31, 08:27, said:



问题出在哪?

个人观点,最后一个加倍在拼命,牌已经叫清楚了,还要表达什么
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Posted 2012-December-31, 10:10

View Postsd_bri007, on 2012-December-31, 09:29, said:

个人观点,最后一个加倍在拼命,牌已经叫清楚了,还要表达什么


是吗?请问您看看应叫人第一口叫品是否妥贴呢?正确的描述应该是2吧,这样开叫人还敢后续加倍吗?不2而是1,后果的危害立现!
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Posted 2012-December-31, 10:18

View Postlycier, on 2012-December-31, 10:10, said:

是吗?请问您看看应叫人第一口叫品是否妥贴呢?正确的描述应该是2吧,这样开叫人还敢后续加倍吗?不2而是1,后果的危害立现!


叫2s叫弱了吧,2s=2-5p,
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Posted 2012-December-31, 10:20

一般尺度是2-7或2-6
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Posted 2012-December-31, 10:34

View Postlycier, on 2012-December-31, 10:20, said:

一般尺度是2-7或2-6


我不清楚一般尺度,我印象书上写得是2-5,
从牌力估值角度讲,这手牌是是6+,足够1s应叫
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Posted 2012-December-31, 17:47

局况不利叫2s合理,这利于开叫人判断,很好的叫品。
个人浅见,支持性再加倍后的2s是盖叫敌人的2h,表示5张,能承受2阶主打。同时从进程看,西是强牌,4s更象是牺牲,西的X警醒开叫人的黑花上也许没有防守赢墩,X5h并不合时宜,哪怕同伴的1s是带上红心QJ的双张。也许北pass后,由南来做决定是否x,更贴切。
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Posted 2012-December-31, 19:21

甭问任何局况,这牌都要叫2的,个人以为这才是唯一恰当的描述叫品;同时大大缩小了叫牌空间。
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Posted 2012-December-31, 21:07

不很具备说服力。介于1S/2S之间。
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Posted 2013-January-02, 08:08

为什么非要叫2S?
可能是从防守叫牌的角度讲给对方制造了难度,他们敢不敢加倍或在3线超叫?
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Posted 2013-January-03, 18:16

View Postwuhuan, on 2013-January-02, 08:08, said:

为什么非要叫2S?
可能是从防守叫牌的角度讲给对方制造了难度,他们敢不敢加倍或在3线超叫?


一口气能够表达清楚,连带张数和强度都能清晰描述清楚,为何两口?请阅读一下劳伦斯《二盖一实用竟叫系统》,里面有详尽的论述。
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Posted 2013-January-03, 19:07

支持第1口叫2,作为第3家,应该清楚第4家可能拥有最多的大牌点实力,自己是单有局方,能第一口叫牌把点力和牌型告诉给第1家PD,让pd有效判定定约的安全阶数太重要了.
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Posted 2013-January-03, 20:23

我觉得关键是北家的加倍5h出的问题,北家没有发言权了。
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Posted 2013-January-03, 20:46

View Post000ffj, on 2013-January-03, 20:23, said:

我觉得关键是北家的加倍5h出的问题,北家没有发言权了。


5加倍的确欠妥。在心里计算上,如果应叫人一口叫清楚牌情,也不会导致开叫人在面对5是否加倍的问题流于猜测的境地。准确地信息传递很重要。
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Posted 2013-January-17, 05:53

我觉得第一口叫1亦属正常。但2不能再叫了,毕竟低限,虽然有6张黑桃。
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Posted 2013-January-18, 00:07

我认为4S是问题的开始。你单有局。你叫4S是想做成,还是只想下一?
然后,才有了加倍!
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Posted 2013-January-18, 00:09

pass永远是一种选择。
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